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		<title>By: Paul Armstrong</title>
		<link>http://fadtastic.net/2007/05/24/weekly-thought-web-designers-wishlist/#comment-49163</link>
		<author>Paul Armstrong</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 12:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://fadtastic.net/2007/05/24/weekly-thought-web-designers-wishlist/#comment-49163</guid>
					<description>text-align-vertical??? I think what you really want is vertical-align to work on more than just table cells.

and for font, you want CSS3 specification for @font-face (&lt;a href="http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-webfonts/#font-data" rel="nofollow"&gt;see here&lt;/a&gt;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>text-align-vertical??? I think what you really want is vertical-align to work on more than just table cells.</p>
<p>and for font, you want CSS3 specification for @font-face (<a href="http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-webfonts/#font-data" rel="nofollow">see here</a>)</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
		<link>http://fadtastic.net/2007/05/24/weekly-thought-web-designers-wishlist/#comment-49191</link>
		<author>Rachel</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 13:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://fadtastic.net/2007/05/24/weekly-thought-web-designers-wishlist/#comment-49191</guid>
					<description>Amen to the font embedding! And I want the 6 months of my life back that I've cumulatively spent dealing with "height" issues!

Better CSS Support in general is probably the single biggest "wish list" item I have. Back end development languages can now do more than ever, more easily than ever. Functionally, I've been able to do whatever I could imagine design-wise with PhotoShop for years (although productivity/usability and performance enhancements along the way are always good). 

But CSS support...I'm totally tired of the hacks and workarounds and cross browser issues and tricks that it takes to create a beautiful design that degrades gracefully! While CSS has done wonders for maintainability, bandwidth consumption, and SEO/semantic markup, it still feels like a dull blade for design.

Standardistas make the case for "forward compatibility" but look what happened to so many sites when IE 7 came out! I know that's a MS issue, not a "standards" issue, but I'm sick and tired of it nonetheless. Old table-based layouts that I did in the late 90s still seem more "solid" than some of the CSS ones I did 2 years ago. I know there are CSS experts making standards "work" ...with the resources of a large corporation. But my main point here is that it should not be so hard.

If anything I think we can at least bank on the fact that this industry changes rapidly and it will certainly get better. I for one am really looking forward to that day!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen to the font embedding! And I want the 6 months of my life back that I&#8217;ve cumulatively spent dealing with &#8220;height&#8221; issues!</p>
<p>Better CSS Support in general is probably the single biggest &#8220;wish list&#8221; item I have. Back end development languages can now do more than ever, more easily than ever. Functionally, I&#8217;ve been able to do whatever I could imagine design-wise with PhotoShop for years (although productivity/usability and performance enhancements along the way are always good). </p>
<p>But CSS support&#8230;I&#8217;m totally tired of the hacks and workarounds and cross browser issues and tricks that it takes to create a beautiful design that degrades gracefully! While CSS has done wonders for maintainability, bandwidth consumption, and SEO/semantic markup, it still feels like a dull blade for design.</p>
<p>Standardistas make the case for &#8220;forward compatibility&#8221; but look what happened to so many sites when IE 7 came out! I know that&#8217;s a MS issue, not a &#8220;standards&#8221; issue, but I&#8217;m sick and tired of it nonetheless. Old table-based layouts that I did in the late 90s still seem more &#8220;solid&#8221; than some of the CSS ones I did 2 years ago. I know there are CSS experts making standards &#8220;work&#8221; &#8230;with the resources of a large corporation. But my main point here is that it should not be so hard.</p>
<p>If anything I think we can at least bank on the fact that this industry changes rapidly and it will certainly get better. I for one am really looking forward to that day!</p>
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		<title>By: David Hammond</title>
		<link>http://fadtastic.net/2007/05/24/weekly-thought-web-designers-wishlist/#comment-49209</link>
		<author>David Hammond</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 14:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://fadtastic.net/2007/05/24/weekly-thought-web-designers-wishlist/#comment-49209</guid>
					<description>The text-align-vertical thing mostly already exists, in the form of "display: table-cell; vertical-align: middle;". Unfortunately, Internet Explorer (7 and below) don't yet support display: table-cell, and for some reason the IE developers don't seem to think it's a high priority, from what I've gathered.

I'd love for Internet Explorer to support display:table-cell and the other table values, :before and :after pseudo-elements (and, once the relevant CSS 3 specifications make it to Candidate Recommendation stage, for all major browsers to support the full CSS 3 pseudo-element model with ::inside and ::outside included), and the "inherit" value for all properties (which the IE team also doesn't seem to think is a high priority). But near the top of my priority list is getting rid of the hasLayout model in favor of the standard block formatting context model, which the IE developers actually do agree is a high priority. hasLayout is responsible for a huge portion of the rendering inconsistencies you see in IE, since in a lot of ways it's like IE is using two separate layout engines depending on whether or not the element has layout.

I definitely agree that we need a Photoshop for Linux, as the Gimp just doesn't cut it. My biggest problem with the Gimp is that you can't apply layer effects that may later be adjusted like you can in Photoshop. I'm not a "natural" when it comes to design work; I have to tweak stuff until it's right, and the Gimp makes tweaking a lot more of a hassle than it should be. I normally run Photoshop in Wine, although every so often (as is the case right now) some Wine update causes Photoshop to stop functioning correctly, and I have to either downgrade or use my Windows laptop until a fix comes out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The text-align-vertical thing mostly already exists, in the form of &#8220;display: table-cell; vertical-align: middle;&#8221;. Unfortunately, Internet Explorer (7 and below) don&#8217;t yet support display: table-cell, and for some reason the IE developers don&#8217;t seem to think it&#8217;s a high priority, from what I&#8217;ve gathered.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love for Internet Explorer to support display:table-cell and the other table values, :before and :after pseudo-elements (and, once the relevant CSS 3 specifications make it to Candidate Recommendation stage, for all major browsers to support the full CSS 3 pseudo-element model with ::inside and ::outside included), and the &#8220;inherit&#8221; value for all properties (which the IE team also doesn&#8217;t seem to think is a high priority). But near the top of my priority list is getting rid of the hasLayout model in favor of the standard block formatting context model, which the IE developers actually do agree is a high priority. hasLayout is responsible for a huge portion of the rendering inconsistencies you see in IE, since in a lot of ways it&#8217;s like IE is using two separate layout engines depending on whether or not the element has layout.</p>
<p>I definitely agree that we need a Photoshop for Linux, as the Gimp just doesn&#8217;t cut it. My biggest problem with the Gimp is that you can&#8217;t apply layer effects that may later be adjusted like you can in Photoshop. I&#8217;m not a &#8220;natural&#8221; when it comes to design work; I have to tweak stuff until it&#8217;s right, and the Gimp makes tweaking a lot more of a hassle than it should be. I normally run Photoshop in Wine, although every so often (as is the case right now) some Wine update causes Photoshop to stop functioning correctly, and I have to either downgrade or use my Windows laptop until a fix comes out.</p>
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		<title>By: David Hammond</title>
		<link>http://fadtastic.net/2007/05/24/weekly-thought-web-designers-wishlist/#comment-49211</link>
		<author>David Hammond</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 15:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://fadtastic.net/2007/05/24/weekly-thought-web-designers-wishlist/#comment-49211</guid>
					<description>Rachel: It might please you to know that the Internet Explorer development team plans to put a safeguard against CSS breakage in the next version of Internet Explorer. It will save the current state of the rendering engine as a kind of "quirks mode 2" that all sites will use by default. You may opt in to the new CSS improvements by using some sort of flag (probably a special type of comment, similar to conditional comments). If you don't include that flag, then your site that works in IE 7 should work in IE.next without any fixes needed.

One thing to look out for though: Be careful with conditional comments that don't include IE &#62; 7. If you don't opt in to the CSS improvements, then IE.next will need all of the same hacks you're giving to IE 7. Rather than using the "lte IE 7" condition, you should use just "IE", and rather than the "IE 7" condition, you should use "gte IE 7".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rachel: It might please you to know that the Internet Explorer development team plans to put a safeguard against CSS breakage in the next version of Internet Explorer. It will save the current state of the rendering engine as a kind of &#8220;quirks mode 2&#8243; that all sites will use by default. You may opt in to the new CSS improvements by using some sort of flag (probably a special type of comment, similar to conditional comments). If you don&#8217;t include that flag, then your site that works in IE 7 should work in IE.next without any fixes needed.</p>
<p>One thing to look out for though: Be careful with conditional comments that don&#8217;t include IE &gt; 7. If you don&#8217;t opt in to the CSS improvements, then IE.next will need all of the same hacks you&#8217;re giving to IE 7. Rather than using the &#8220;lte IE 7&#8243; condition, you should use just &#8220;IE&#8221;, and rather than the &#8220;IE 7&#8243; condition, you should use &#8220;gte IE 7&#8243;.</p>
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		<title>By: Navdeep</title>
		<link>http://fadtastic.net/2007/05/24/weekly-thought-web-designers-wishlist/#comment-49225</link>
		<author>Navdeep</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 16:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://fadtastic.net/2007/05/24/weekly-thought-web-designers-wishlist/#comment-49225</guid>
					<description>I would love to have CSS Rounded Corners</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would love to have CSS Rounded Corners</p>
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		<title>By: NatalieMac</title>
		<link>http://fadtastic.net/2007/05/24/weekly-thought-web-designers-wishlist/#comment-49279</link>
		<author>NatalieMac</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 20:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://fadtastic.net/2007/05/24/weekly-thought-web-designers-wishlist/#comment-49279</guid>
					<description>My wish list is for CSS3 to be released and supported by all browsers. Border-radius, border-image, drop shadows, improved selectors, opacity...

...then again, that might make my job so easy, I get bored.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My wish list is for CSS3 to be released and supported by all browsers. Border-radius, border-image, drop shadows, improved selectors, opacity&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;then again, that might make my job so easy, I get bored.</p>
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		<title>By: Lara</title>
		<link>http://fadtastic.net/2007/05/24/weekly-thought-web-designers-wishlist/#comment-49363</link>
		<author>Lara</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 03:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://fadtastic.net/2007/05/24/weekly-thought-web-designers-wishlist/#comment-49363</guid>
					<description>Ahhh, gotta love that font property. If only, if only...

I'd really like to use some different fonts for headers and whatnot. Arial, Georgia, and Tahoma get boring after a while.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahhh, gotta love that font property. If only, if only&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;d really like to use some different fonts for headers and whatnot. Arial, Georgia, and Tahoma get boring after a while.</p>
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		<title>By: Rohit</title>
		<link>http://fadtastic.net/2007/05/24/weekly-thought-web-designers-wishlist/#comment-49367</link>
		<author>Rohit</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 03:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://fadtastic.net/2007/05/24/weekly-thought-web-designers-wishlist/#comment-49367</guid>
					<description>"...As for Inkscape, Scribus, and other software alternatives to the CS3 suite.."

I don't think Inkscape or Scribus are alternatives to the entire CS3 suite but infact are alternatives to Illustrator only. But I completely agree that Linux needs Photoshop and possibly the entire CS3 suite. The others are still lacking in many ways :(.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;As for Inkscape, Scribus, and other software alternatives to the CS3 suite..&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think Inkscape or Scribus are alternatives to the entire CS3 suite but infact are alternatives to Illustrator only. But I completely agree that Linux needs Photoshop and possibly the entire CS3 suite. The others are still lacking in many ways :(.</p>
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		<title>By: reid</title>
		<link>http://fadtastic.net/2007/05/24/weekly-thought-web-designers-wishlist/#comment-49368</link>
		<author>reid</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 03:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://fadtastic.net/2007/05/24/weekly-thought-web-designers-wishlist/#comment-49368</guid>
					<description>I'd love css tag for 100% vertical size. I know you can hack it. It should be simple. And for clients to not ask for logo reflections.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d love css tag for 100% vertical size. I know you can hack it. It should be simple. And for clients to not ask for logo reflections.</p>
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		<title>By: Ezekiel Bruni</title>
		<link>http://fadtastic.net/2007/05/24/weekly-thought-web-designers-wishlist/#comment-49494</link>
		<author>Ezekiel Bruni</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 12:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://fadtastic.net/2007/05/24/weekly-thought-web-designers-wishlist/#comment-49494</guid>
					<description>@Rohit

I guess I should have clarified... "Replacements for other products in the CS3 suite" might have been better.

Scribus is seen as a replacement for InDesign though, not Illustrator.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Rohit</p>
<p>I guess I should have clarified&#8230; &#8220;Replacements for other products in the CS3 suite&#8221; might have been better.</p>
<p>Scribus is seen as a replacement for InDesign though, not Illustrator.</p>
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		<title>By: Wes Linda</title>
		<link>http://fadtastic.net/2007/05/24/weekly-thought-web-designers-wishlist/#comment-51486</link>
		<author>Wes Linda</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 13:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://fadtastic.net/2007/05/24/weekly-thought-web-designers-wishlist/#comment-51486</guid>
					<description>I must agree to all of these, although, I'm not as much of a fan of Linux but the other three tags are huge.  Would love them, but of course, you know it will be years before such items would be supported if they were ever created.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must agree to all of these, although, I&#8217;m not as much of a fan of Linux but the other three tags are huge.  Would love them, but of course, you know it will be years before such items would be supported if they were ever created.</p>
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		<title>By: YPM</title>
		<link>http://fadtastic.net/2007/05/24/weekly-thought-web-designers-wishlist/#comment-52871</link>
		<author>YPM</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 15:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://fadtastic.net/2007/05/24/weekly-thought-web-designers-wishlist/#comment-52871</guid>
					<description>A good working IEX would be nice, and force all older version user to upgrade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A good working IEX would be nice, and force all older version user to upgrade.</p>
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		<title>By: thinsoldier</title>
		<link>http://fadtastic.net/2007/05/24/weekly-thought-web-designers-wishlist/#comment-53447</link>
		<author>thinsoldier</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 15:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://fadtastic.net/2007/05/24/weekly-thought-web-designers-wishlist/#comment-53447</guid>
					<description>try Xara X as an alternative to Illustrator. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>try Xara X as an alternative to Illustrator. I think you&#8217;ll be pleasantly surprised.</p>
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