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Client Trouble (Or, Another Reason To Blame Microsoft)

Posted by Ezekiel Bruni on April 12th, 2007.

Ezekiel Bruni is a seventeen-year old Canadian web designer, currently located in Mexico. Aside from design, he likes books, poetry, music, and good food.

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There’s no denying the fact that there’s a lot of design-challenged clients out there. They’re everywhere, in fact. The problem has become extensive enough that someone even put up a site where people can go to rant about them. If you haven’t met clients like this yet, keep designing. They will find you.

We’ve all been there

So you’re in a meeting with a client, and it’s all going well. He looks like the smart type, a real businessman. He tells you what features he wants the website to have, and his demands are reasonable. You give him a quote, and he’s satisfied with the price.

But then he pulls the switch. He leans forward, looks you in the eye, and says, “Our company wants to stand out from the crowd. Could you do the site in purple and yellow?

Yep, we’ve been there:

    1. I want to use the Laker’s colors. (This one happened to me, but not exactly as described above…)
      How about Comic Sans? In fact let’s use it everywhere…
      Are you going to make it in Frontpage? I want it made in Frontpage.
      My ten-year old son is a designer too, and he says…
      But it’s so easy in Powerpoint! This Flash stuff sucks.
      Can you do that cool text stuff like you can in Word?
      It needs more, I dunno, it just needs something.
      I’d like every navigation button to be a different [bright and flashy] color. And I want each page to match the color of the button that links to it. (This also happened to me…)
      But I don’t want whitespace.
      Etc.

So very, very sad.

Why are they like this?

I blame Microsoft. No, seriously, it’s not the Linux fanboy in me talking. Frontpage, Word, Powerpoint, and any number of other WYSIWYG programs have skewed our customer’s view of the design world. Good design is seen by many as something that “anyone can do”.

If they can do animation in Powerpoint, than it should work the same for the website, right? And it doesn’t end there. Many people believe that we designers are gods, and can do miracles, such as taking that fuzzy 300×250 picture of their chihuahua-crossed-with-a-pitbull-and-a-daschund, and creating a poster out of it. Or a website. If we don’t deliver according to their tastes, we are branded as a waste of their time and money.

(Of course, there are probably many other reasons as well, but that would take too long to write.)

Fortunately, not all clients are like this.

What’s the solution?

Well, here’s a few thoughts:

1. Client Education

This is a tough one, at least for me. Then again, I’m not a very smooth talker when I’ve just been presented with any of the ideas listed above. I’ve found that some people trust you just because “you’re the designer”, and will follow your suggestions. Some won’t.

2. Client Finds Solution

This did actually happen to me once. Again, thanks to the “you’re the designer” phenomenon, sometimes the client will automatically retract his suggestion, and present you with something workable.

3. Dump The Client

A last resort, because frankly, it means dumping money as well. It could also be hard if you’re in a binding contract. If you can dump them, do so as nicely as possible, without lying.

Something like, “I’m sorry, but the project just doesn’t match with my design style.” will usually work. Offer to suggest some other designers.

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So tell me your stories. Did you succeed in educating the client? Did you give them what they wanted? Did you dump them? How do you deal with troublesome clients?

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Every designer will go through this - likely more than once too.

I find the best solution is for the client to point out the problem they have with your work. Then you say that you’ll find the solution. Doing it in this manner doesn’t allow them to come out with outrageous solutions.

I don’t think it’s entirely Microsoft’s fault. It’s often the lack of knowledge that the web should be used to its strengths - not to do all the crazy DTP stuff.

I’d also like to agree that one can drop clients as a last resort. Don’t be afraid to, but be sensible about it.

Andrew Faulkner
April 12th, 2007
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Yep - been there.

Had a client recently where redesigning the website and talked them into having a new logo too. I drew up three conceptual logos which i presented to the client. Two of the ideas were in my oppinion excellent logos and would have given me lots of options for designing the website. The third logo, i confess, was making up the numbers and a little bit weak.

Naturally they preferred the third one. I suppose it’s my fault for presenting a weaker option, but I dont think this is uncommon? In hindsight I should have pitched the concepts better and SOLD the better ideas.

We live and learn.

Aaron
April 12th, 2007
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Usually i am dumping client if i am over busy. I always work on several projects, but sometimes i need to let go clients. Another reason is their budget is too low, i don’t want to be underpaid (according to my standard).

I think i communicate well with my clients, i always talk with my clients regarding my ideas before constructing any conceptual. Except for icon designs, i always start from sketch.

My clients knows well about web technology, i think i am kinda doing well educating my client. But sometimes i found a cracker :D, like giving me a high resolution image to my small mailbox. God..i have to deleted the email, and ask for smaller image instead.

I am agree with Adrew, there is no one to blame about WYSIWYG. Microsoft is not the one to blame about its office suit. Personally i dislike Dreamweaver or FrontPage :-D , with that tools even a 10 year old can all em a Web Designer.

Ncus
April 12th, 2007
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I usually go with the educating approach - most clients will see the light if you give them some solid reasons for choosing to not go with their suggestions, particularly if the reasons somehow relate back to them making more money.

When they don’t listen I have trouble - I’ve never had the heart to dump them, especially as they have often been perfectly nice people who just happen to have a NO IDEA about design. I usually find some kind of alternative solution that satisfied both of us, or just do it anyway. Luckily no one has asked me to do anything too horrible so far…

I’d like to blame MySpace just a little too - with the crazily crowded pages there I always get ‘it’s too booooring, put some more stuff in the space!’ from people from that age group, although luckily they’re friends and not clients!

@Aaron: It’s funny how they always go for the design you like the least huh? I’ve had that happen to me several times. These days I just pitch less designs rather than include one I’m not happy with.

Chisa
April 12th, 2007
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Well said. A lot of people try to impose their perception without worrying about the users. Usually the problem gets sorted out when they are explained the consequences. I think it is better if the designer makes sure before the engagement that he/she will have the authority for certain decisions since he/she has taken responsibility for the site. But it is quite true that a long term solution is to educate them.

Abhijit Nadgouda
April 12th, 2007
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Trying to educate clients as much as possible at the start before contracts are even signed is the best line of defense I think.

I’m working with a client now who wants so much stuff for her site off the bat, most of which was not wise. So I told her to back up, start small, and broke down why starting small would be more beneficial. I backed up all of my points with examples and she 100% agreed.

Half the time, the clients don’t even know what they want so they choose everything and expect the world in a website.

J Phill
April 12th, 2007
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The Lakers comment made me laugh pretty loud. That one actually happened to me.

“I want a purple background, gold headings, green text and no rounded corners or that shadowing stuff.”

That client still can’t figure out why no one uses her site.

M.J.A.
April 12th, 2007
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As I understand it, every design decision has a reason behind it, so as designers, we should be able to explain the reasons for everything we do. Of course, some of our clients will not be reasonable.

I try to establish working relationships with my clients in which they explain their problems to me, and allow me to provide the solutions. I try to shun clients who want to give me the solutions.

Steve
April 12th, 2007
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they explain their problems to me, and allow me to provide the solutions. I try to shun clients who want to give me the solutions.

Spot on, mate. I concur.

Andrew Faulkner
April 12th, 2007
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As Tony Bliar once said “education, education, education”. I’ve been there with nearly all of those!

I wish someone would educate Bill Gates! Nice post…

Matt Davies
April 12th, 2007
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I’ve been through all of these situations. Fortunately less and less with the years. I think that I’ve learned how to sniff out the bad clients now.
However one thing that still gets me is the scope creep. Once I get a deposit and start working, then all of a sudden flash would be nice, how about a contact form or perhaps you could build something that allows me to maintain it? I would like to know if a builder, once halfway finished the construction of a house would all of sudden add a basement?

Christine
April 13th, 2007
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[…] » Client Trouble (Or, Another Reason To Blame Microsoft) » fadtastic - a multi-author web design t… - Thereâs no denying the fact that thereâs a lot of design-challenged clients out there. Theyâre everywhere, in fact. […]

holotone.net
April 13th, 2007
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Whaddaya know? The solutions are all here.

Ezekiel Bruni
April 13th, 2007
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You say education, and yes, explaining a design decision does work most of the time, but this takes time..make sure you’re billing them for that, something I’m not sure I always do, but it’s my own fault..

If a client is being awkward or demanding I normally say, ‘you are paying me to design, let me design’ if they don’t agree to this then it’s a fundamental problem in the working relationship.. tell them that.

and I wouldn’t say blame microsoft, it’s just people.. can’t live with em, can’t kill em..

stu
April 17th, 2007
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