Comments on: Is :: Dead? http://fadtastic.net/2006/09/20/is-dead/ thoughts on | comments about | examples of } web design trends. Fri, 16 May 2008 19:08:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1.2 By: bryan http://fadtastic.net/2006/09/20/is-dead/#comment-4287 bryan Wed, 20 Sep 2006 16:25:01 +0000 http://fadtastic.net/2006/09/20/is-dead/#comment-4287 Aparently sombody still uses them.. after reading your article, i stumbled upon this site.. http://community.livejournal.com/bestoffreecycle/ Aparently sombody still uses them.. after reading your article, i stumbled upon this site..
http://community.livejournal.com/bestoffreecycle/

]]> By: P.J. Onori http://fadtastic.net/2006/09/20/is-dead/#comment-4289 P.J. Onori Wed, 20 Sep 2006 17:00:21 +0000 http://fadtastic.net/2006/09/20/is-dead/#comment-4289 Hilarious - I can't believe I forgot about this. Hopefully overuse of random characters in titles will be something we don't repeat in the future. Hilarious - I can’t believe I forgot about this. Hopefully overuse of random characters in titles will be something we don’t repeat in the future.

]]> By: Andrew Faulkner http://fadtastic.net/2006/09/20/is-dead/#comment-4290 Andrew Faulkner Wed, 20 Sep 2006 17:15:09 +0000 http://fadtastic.net/2006/09/20/is-dead/#comment-4290 Good spot, Bryan. 10 FadPoints are coming your way... ;) Good spot, Bryan. 10 FadPoints are coming your way… ;)

]]> By: Adam Walker Cleaveland http://fadtastic.net/2006/09/20/is-dead/#comment-4292 Adam Walker Cleaveland Wed, 20 Sep 2006 17:21:28 +0000 http://fadtastic.net/2006/09/20/is-dead/#comment-4292 You almost would have been able to use my site. I went to get my Doing Business As for my very, very small freelance graphic design <a href="http://www.cleavedesign.com" rel="nofollow">gig</a> and wanted to call the company cleave*design but Georgia wouldln't take the "*" - so I then tried to do cleave::design but they wouldn't allow that either. Good thing...I guess. You almost would have been able to use my site. I went to get my Doing Business As for my very, very small freelance graphic design gig and wanted to call the company cleave*design but Georgia wouldln’t take the “*” - so I then tried to do cleave::design but they wouldn’t allow that either.

Good thing…I guess.

]]> By: Megan http://fadtastic.net/2006/09/20/is-dead/#comment-4307 Megan Wed, 20 Sep 2006 18:17:47 +0000 http://fadtastic.net/2006/09/20/is-dead/#comment-4307 There also used to be a lot of use of | to separate link items. To know why this is bad, try using a screen reader. It reads "vertical bar". In the case of :: they would read "colon colon". Not good. So the first potential reason is because designers are becoming more aware of accessibility issues. The second is that they are really a presentational delineator put into the actual text. It's like putting a decorative image in as an and not as a CSS background. Now that CSS is well supported (and people have a better understanding of semantics) you can use proper lists to mark up things that would have formerly been done with :: or | separators. There also used to be a lot of use of | to separate link items. To know why this is bad, try using a screen reader. It reads “vertical bar”. In the case of :: they would read “colon colon”. Not good.

So the first potential reason is because designers are becoming more aware of accessibility issues.

The second is that they are really a presentational delineator put into the actual text. It’s like putting a decorative image in as an and not as a CSS background. Now that CSS is well supported (and people have a better understanding of semantics) you can use proper lists to mark up things that would have formerly been done with :: or | separators.

]]> By: Megan http://fadtastic.net/2006/09/20/is-dead/#comment-4309 Megan Wed, 20 Sep 2006 18:19:12 +0000 http://fadtastic.net/2006/09/20/is-dead/#comment-4309 That doesn't make sense because the comment form cut out my img tag. So it should read "decorative image in with an image tag instead of with css" Sorry, first comment here :) That doesn’t make sense because the comment form cut out my img tag. So it should read “decorative image in with an image tag instead of with css” Sorry, first comment here :)

]]> By: Megan http://fadtastic.net/2006/09/20/is-dead/#comment-4310 Megan Wed, 20 Sep 2006 18:24:39 +0000 http://fadtastic.net/2006/09/20/is-dead/#comment-4310 Here's an example I oddly enough happen to have open right now: http://operawiki.info/ (in the title tag) Sorry for the multiple comments :) Here’s an example I oddly enough happen to have open right now:

http://operawiki.info/ (in the title tag)

Sorry for the multiple comments :)

]]> By: Andrew Faulkner http://fadtastic.net/2006/09/20/is-dead/#comment-4315 Andrew Faulkner Wed, 20 Sep 2006 19:34:58 +0000 http://fadtastic.net/2006/09/20/is-dead/#comment-4315 Megan, Great insights there. I think the vertical bar issue started as the W3C asked for 'no blank spaces between links' or something of the sort. So people may have started this to overcome that rule. Semantics/Accessibility has helped to fade this 'habit' out now though. Great example there at OperaWiki. And welcome to fadtastic. Megan,

Great insights there. I think the vertical bar issue started as the W3C asked for ‘no blank spaces between links’ or something of the sort. So people may have started this to overcome that rule.

Semantics/Accessibility has helped to fade this ‘habit’ out now though.

Great example there at OperaWiki. And welcome to fadtastic.

]]> By: Adam Walker Cleaveland http://fadtastic.net/2006/09/20/is-dead/#comment-4417 Adam Walker Cleaveland Thu, 21 Sep 2006 22:03:12 +0000 http://fadtastic.net/2006/09/20/is-dead/#comment-4417 Ummm....so, I just saw Megan's comment about the :: in the title bar and I thought to myself...shoot, I've seen that: <a href="http://www.cleavedesign.com" rel="nofollow">My design site</a>. In the title bar. Shoot. Ummm….so, I just saw Megan’s comment about the :: in the title bar and I thought to myself…shoot, I’ve seen that:

My design site. In the title bar.

Shoot.

]]> By: Andrew Faulkner http://fadtastic.net/2006/09/20/is-dead/#comment-4474 Andrew Faulkner Fri, 22 Sep 2006 14:29:11 +0000 http://fadtastic.net/2006/09/20/is-dead/#comment-4474 Adam, Are you proud of it? Adam,

Are you proud of it?

]]> By: S. http://fadtastic.net/2006/09/20/is-dead/#comment-4477 S. Fri, 22 Sep 2006 14:52:53 +0000 http://fadtastic.net/2006/09/20/is-dead/#comment-4477 Umm, I posted the comment to the wrong post, sorry. Anyhow, here's a link to a site that *still* uses those. <a href="http://www.mt.com.mk/eng/" rel="nofollow">http://www.mt.com.mk/eng/</a> Umm, I posted the comment to the wrong post, sorry. Anyhow, here’s a link to a site that *still* uses those.

http://www.mt.com.mk/eng/

]]> By: Andrew Faulkner http://fadtastic.net/2006/09/20/is-dead/#comment-4478 Andrew Faulkner Fri, 22 Sep 2006 15:04:07 +0000 http://fadtastic.net/2006/09/20/is-dead/#comment-4478 Thank you, "S." A jolly good find. Thank you, “S.” A jolly good find.

]]> By: David G. Paul http://fadtastic.net/2006/09/20/is-dead/#comment-4690 David G. Paul Wed, 27 Sep 2006 21:49:35 +0000 http://fadtastic.net/2006/09/20/is-dead/#comment-4690 http://www.newearthonline.co.uk When navigating to subpages there are :: put into the title http://www.newearthonline.co.uk

When navigating to subpages there are :: put into the title

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