The end of an era for Times New Roman?

Strange though, I’ve somehow unkowingly swtiched over to Georgia when writing for print (invoices, rpfs…..) - It gives it that weird new look which people can’t place.

Otherwise I think Times might stick around for awhile, especially now when more macs are being sold (incl. the spearate licensing issue) and windows is bringing out a new set of standard fonts.

Who knows maybe years down the road we might be able to tell who uses what OS just by looking at their printed text…

[…] A very interesting article published on Fadtastic by Andy Whitacre reports that Microsoft is going to bring out a new set of standard fonts for Office 2007: Earlier this year, Microsoft released betas of Office 2007, and the first thing reviewers noticed, besides the new interface, was that Times New Roman had been deposed as the default font with something called . . . Calibri? […]

I was hoping that Microsoft might make an agreement with Apple to allow these new fonts to be supplied in all new versions of MacOS X to allow for them to be used in web pages without embedding them. Being limited to 6-8 reliable fonts for online typography is frustrating.

Times will not die - People will still use it I am sure as it is a fantastic font. Hmm not supprised about the PC bias on fonts though- Bill gates does not like mac, look what he did with not upgrading internet explorer of Macs. He cant win nicely so he has to play dirty. Great article and well spotted.

[…] I have respect for the font. I still have reams of that transfer paper with different letters, in different fonts from mom’s ad agency back in the 80s. Choosing the correct font took thought, committees and commitment. But how can I argue with Bill Gates? It’s not like I ever use Times New Roman, anyway. May 27, 2006 | In Tech | Posted By C Mart | Email This Post […]

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Actually Calibri is very easy to read on screen, and in addition prints out very nicely as well.

If it can replace Arial, that would be ‘a good thing’.

Personally I think that serif fonts are easier to read on the printed page, especially for pages and pages of text.

[…] Microsoft finally realized that Times New Roman is not that good to read on screen. So, starting from Office 2007, the default font will now be Calibri. You can take a look at Calibri here. […]

[…] Earlier this year, Microsoft released betas of Office 2007, and the first thing reviewers noticed, besides the new interface, was that Times New Roman had been deposed as the default font with something called . . . Calibri? But what will happen to Times New Roman?read more | digg story […]

Ive always hated using Times New Roman

[…] Nas versões beta do Office 2007, recentemente lançadas, os utilizadores reparam que a fonte default (que desde que me lembro era o Times New Roman) é agora uma nova fonte chamada Calibri, da família Sans-Serif. Link […]

Hi , I have used MS office 2007 beta 2. Its only after ur article that I noticed the default font is calibri.However , I coudnt figure much difference between calibri and times new roman. Its almost the same and will not affect times new roman to a great extent.

Even the Times of London (for whom the typeface was created) hasn’t used it since 1972.

I for one dislike TNR, and I encourage my students to use plausible alternatives — Garamond, Georgia, Gill Sans, Lucida, Palatino, Sylfaen. Serif or sans, I have no preference as long as it’s a good font for reading. I don’t think though that better fonts make better grades — in my experience, careless writing looks even worse with an elegant font, because of the clash between between design and content.

If I’m writing on the computer, I always choose a sans serif font. I need to be looking at a draft, not something that has the appearance of finished text.

[…] Times New Roman - The end of an era. […]

Regarding that Poynter article, Joe Clark had some comments - http://blog.fawny.org/2005/03/27/poynter/

For the record, I’ve hated Times New Roman since the first time I was forced to use that bugridden purgatory of bloatware that is MS Word. It’s just ugly.

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“No one would ever look at a paper or article or memo and say, “Ew, why’d you choose Times New Roman?””

I disagree, as a designer every typeface choice needs to be rationalised. There should absolutely be a reason for choosing the typeface you do. At the universities I have studied at/visited/lectured at you would not do well without being able to explain your typeface choice.

[…] I don’t have any confirmation on this, but fadtastic says that for the first time in history, Times New Roman is not the default font in Microsoft Office, its status having been usurped in Office 2007 by Microsoft’s pretty new star Calibri. The venerable and ubiquitous font is still included in the office suite, of course, and the new version of Office is still in beta and things may be reshuffled again in the months before its final release, but it’s still a surprising shift for a company as stalwart as Microsoft. […]

[…] Times New Roman: The End is Near? Earlier this year, Microsoft released betas of Office 2007, and the first thing reviewers noticed, besides the new interface, was that Times New Roman had been deposed as the default font with something called… Calibri? But what will happen to Times New Roman? […]

TNR font is beautiful and all-purpose. At the same time it is boring. There are some aged people who think that TNR is what all written English about and all other typefaces are eccentric and exotic But I bet the font will not be out simply because MS replaces it with Calibri. Habits die hard.

I think another reason Times is so popular is you can find it on most platforms usually pre-installed. Until Calibri does that… I don’t think Times will disappear. Especially for web I think people will stick with the familiar (and ubiquitous) Arial and Verdana.

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[…] Earlier this year, Microsoft released betas of Office 2007, and the first thing reviewers noticed, besides the new interface, was that Times New Roman had been deposed as the default font with something called . . . Calibri? But what will happen to Times New Roman?read more | digg story […]

Times New Roman should have been out long ago. It’s the default font. And graphic designers are not default sort of people!

Christian,

That’s interesting. How come TNR is the only font you can read? If you don’t mind, I’d love to hear more about why this is.

I don’t think Microsoft is dropping TNR, merely using Calibri as the default font in Office.

If it can replace Arial, that would be ‘a good thing’.

Personally I think that serif fonts are easier to read on the printed page, especially for pages and pages of text.
Greetings from Poland

I have always thought that Times New Roman was the “default” font, the “boring” font, the font that everyone uses when they are too lazy to change it to something else that looks better… but now that I’ve seen so much and done so much research about it, I’m totally sad that everyone is using Calibri now…

To answer Max’s query, sure, you can move Calibri from a computer with Office 2K7 to a computer with Office 2000. Just go into Control Panel > Fonts, find Calibri, Ctrl+C, Edit > Paste it onto a floppy or flash drive, and copy and paste it from there into the Fonts folder of the computer with Office 2000.

I agree with Jonathan Wing, though — I shudder every time I look at Times New Roman. Why? Several reasons:

1. It’s like bellbottoms and wood panelling — it’s old and there are better alternatives.
2. Contrary to popular belief, it’s not as readable as most people think. It’s true that serif fonts are, by and large, easier to read for 12pt-14pt text than sans-serif fonts, but Garamond and Georgia (two other serif fonts) periodically score much higher on readability tests than TNR en masse.
3. As mentioned in the linked article about The Secret Lives of Fonts, Georgia/Garamond/Calisto are more professional and give off a cleaner look — the serifs remain to retain the sharp image, but they are considered more classy than Times New Roman.
4. Some people say that Times New Roman should be used because it is universal and everyone has it. Technically, every Windows PC with an operating system of Windows 98 or later has Georgia natively installed, so this isn’t really a valid argument for TNR.

To summarize, I’m glad they gave TNR the boot from default font in Office 2007. I’m proud to say that in five years as a web developer, I’ve never willingly used TNR as the font on a website before, and I’ve successfully convinced one of my TNR-only profs to reconsider. TNR is something I’ve been grumbling over for a long time, and so has everyone with any smidgen of aesthetic sense, so go Microsoft! in taking this beast from our hands.

Interested.Thanks.

For one, I have always loathed TNR. Trebuchet MS rocks, and Calibri isn’t bad either.

long live times new roman

Times New Roman is good, but the Russian Literaturnaya font is better!

I am looking for a particular kind of Times New Roman font, I believe it number 1818, or 1880.  Kindly inform me of where on te web I can find it.  Much appreciated

wow and you no what i thought was halarious.. is that this font that im typing in right now isnt even Times New Roman..?

[…] to fadtastic, Microsoft, in their new version of Office 2007 have chosen not to include a modernday classic […]

Hi all great information here and good thread to comment on.

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Can I ask though - how did you get this picked up and into google news?

Very impressive that this blog is syndicated through Google and is it something that is just up to Google or you actively created?

Obviously this is a popular blog with great data so well done on your seo success..

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GET SOME

I have three things to say 1,) Georgia 2.) Vernada 3.) Tahoma.  I personally have no use for anything but these 3 fonts. 

Haha, I almost always write in Calibri and then switch to TNR.

Super chevere 

There is a revolution being born in the streets of Portland Oregon. A typographic street gang is lurking in the shadows of beloved fonts. They’re mission is to liberate the most widley used font from its unappreciated reputation of being "the defalt." They will use nonviolent action to terrorise typographic snobs and present TNR as a beautiful font that will have other uses outside of being the font selector’s town whore.

My instructor and I read this article and think unanimously that this decision is terrible.  What were they thinking?  Times is, like Andrew said "expected."  I totally disagree and am disgusted.

Just a little post script if I may; if the copy is crap and uninteresting then it really doesn’t matter which font ’cause it won’t keep the reader very long before he/she moves on.

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has times new roman changed over the years with different softward programs for fonts and companies making them such as Mac and Microsoft.  Please tell me why changes to the typeset and what do businesses do if they do not want to changetheir letterhead should it change again in the future?? 

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